Monday, October 5, 2009

Thoroughly Unthorough

The pony-tailed "engineer" who led NASA's Exploration Systems Architecture Study that chose the Ares launchers, "said...the rapid pace of the (475 nm Panel) review did not allow for a thorough analysis of cost, risk and schedule implications associated with those options."

Oh yeah, and we guess the rapid pace of ESAS somehow did allow for a thorough analysis?

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Of course ESAS did a thorough analysis : But only of the option Mike wanted all along. The rest of ESAS was designed to show why nothing else could possibly work. The leaking of the Appendices proves that many other alternatives were viable. From those who have really talked to Stanley, they say he has admitted that Griffin turned the screws two weeks before the report was to be completed to make his babies look better. Up until that intervention, ESAS had been going for 2-launch LV-24/25 as the best option.

Chuck2200 said...

Anonymous said "Up until that intervention, ESAS had been going for 2-launch LV-24/25 as the best option."

No wonder he hated DIRECT so much. It fundamentally is LV-24/25.

Anonymous said...

If Doug S, or anyone else on ESAS, thought that there was a blatant bias being forced by MG then they should have "manned up" back then and come out with a public statement about same. Sorry - long after the fact hearsay ("heard something who talked to Doug")is worth about as much as it would be in a court of law. ESAS may have been pushed in one direction or another - name me a government study effort - any Agency here - that hasn't been.

Anonymous said...

I think the pony tailed engineer was putting some 'nice civility' on the 475nm panels work.

Anyone with a shred of Aerospace experience was probably woefully unimpressed by the technical depth of the Panel's analysis....

Anonymous said...

Wow, still no news at all about these 3 days of "Bolden meets the Senior Minions" gatherings yet? I can't believe anything major remained so hush-hush this long unless there really isn't much to it. Could this just be 3 days of "Hi, I'm your new boss" meetings? Given the travel costs involved it would be a dreadful waste of tax money if that's all it is.

kT said...

If they were men, they would have 'manned up'. But they weren't, they still aren't, and they won't ever be.

Anonymous said...

Re: SES Summit -- Bolden said today that his old Marine buddy Tony Zinni delivered an inspirational speech. Other than that, the abolition of strategic communications is the only thing I've heard.

But back to ESAS. Yes, it was a similarly short exercise. But the ESAS tiger team tapped the efforts of 300-400 NASA field center personnel. Augustine, best I can tell, harnessed the analytical horsepower of a handful of Aerospace Corp. folks. By Augustines own admission, the review did not address safety in any serious fashion.

Meanwhile, while Bolden & Co. hold out hope for a mid-Oct. release of the final report, other clued in folks say the release could be delayed for months so as to not interfere with the Obama administration's focus on healthcare and Afghanistan.

How much longer can we watch Charlie choke up and talk about inspiring the next generation?

QuantumG said...

Anyone who thinks dual heavy launch is the way to go is a simple retard. Doing dual light launch is hard enough.. doing 1.5 is even harder. In any case, you can't say "hey, let's start a heavy launch vehicle program and screw the existing programs".. which is the only way you could get a dual heavy launch program to work.

Anonymous said...

"Anyone with a shred of Aerospace experience"

This anonymous guy must be really smart. Aerospace corp smart. Nay, smarter, because Aerospace corp either doesn't have experience or is unimpressed with their own work.

If I ran the world everything would be better.

Anonymous said...

Did everyone here see Jeff Hanley's Email
arguing with the Augustine panel.

It's posted on nasawatch.